Soothing myself while speaking up

Started by Matilda2, May 05, 2025, 03:52:10 PM

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Matilda2

I integrated a lot of dad-related trauma stuff. And decided to speak up with CPS and the systems therapist. I want to write a mail. As well as start conversations. If they allow it. I need to write a mail today. Or maybe tomorrow.

I find it terribly hard to speak. I cannot explain well. I do not know how to find the right words. Or how to put a complex situation in 10 sentences. I'm afraid not to be believed, or to make it worse. It also arouses emotions. And I'm afraid to be unfair to dad. I write a bit. Do not find it good enough. Get  stressed. Walk away. But I need to write.

I could use as many calming techniques to use to keep myself in my window of tolerance (thanks, NarcKiddo) whilst writing or speaking. So that I can be logical and coherent. And finish the story. I need to write a bit. Calm down. Write a bit. Calm down.

Any ideas? 

Matilda2

#1
What I already did was talk to a hotline, walk a bit, eat something, listen to soothing or strenghtening music. But it's not enough.

I need it to be good. I also don't want to harm dad. He is terrible damaged and damaging. But not a sociopath. Just a sensitive boy hidden in an emotional bunker because of autism and trauma. Ideally my mail helps kid and me as kid's mum, whilst not driving dad further in his bunker. Ideally even gently convincing him there's life outside his bunker.

NarcKiddo

That's tough to do. I am with you on finding it hard to speak. Especially if I have not planned precisely what points I need to get across, or somebody asks me some question I have not thought of in advance. So in your position I would also be writing everything down. My approach would likely be to write a massive essay saying everything and including whatever grievances and emotions I have. I'd let the angry or sad inner children have full voice. This is hard, though, and I think I would have to forget the window of tolerance and just let the inner children loose for a day or so. Then I'd try to regroup, put adult me in charge, and go through editing down to the main points.

I don't know if you have time to do this, though. Or if you have the emotional bandwidth to go through that process. Or if that process would even be helpful for you. I would do it for me because that way my inner children would get their voice and then adult me would filter it all so by the time it gets told to someone else it sounds rational and compelling. Your situation is complicated by not wanting to cause issues for your dad, so adult you has to be fully in control of whatever eventually gets sent out or said.

I am conscious my reply has not given any further ideas for calming techniques. I don't really have any, over and above what you are already doing, apart from doing exercise, which is my go to, or doing art. I do, however, often find that letting my inner children vent for a while usually ends up in my feeling generally calmer even if it is unpleasant at the time. I don't know if maybe letting yours vent but setting a timer would help you? And when they vent, maybe let them do it with no concern for your dad. Then adult you can later sift through and pick up what is important to convey to a third party. I am assuming you may have some sort of contact with your inner child(ren) but if not then please disregard anything here that is not helpful to you.

Armee

Getting outside is my go to. As is watching something that makes me laugh or smile or is pure and good hearted. I once practiced writing a story that was very very difficult to put in words about some of what happened to me. I wrote it first in third person then eventually was able to write in first person.  At first I dissociated a lot. But writing it over and over helped me both get some distance from it and also make it first person so I could acknowledge it was something that happened to me not her. So I guess just write what you have to write however and as many times as you need to. You don't need to send the first several drafts. It can be how you work your way up to what you want to write. I remember now too I read aloud what I wrote into a recorder and listened to it to. It was both difficult and desensitizing but allowed me to adopt it as my story instead of pushing it away. I don't know if it's a good idea. I recall I was very triggered while doing this. But you sure aren't alone.  :grouphug:

Matilda2

Thank you for all your advice. I try these things!

The writing makes me feel all the bad stuff. And understand how I failed kid. Failed to protect him. And also how stuck I am. I responded in all the wrong ways to dad, because nobody heard me...on surface level I seem like the *, because he aroused such strong feelings in me...and hid all the behaviour he did to elicit these feelings. I am terrified. He is extremely manipulative. But in a calculated way. Not impulsive. I am good at being open with feelings. Dad is good at strategy games. I am more genuine, but unstrategical.

I feel overwhelmed. Scared.

I also feel guilty...maybe if I had been better, dad had come out of his shell.

Matilda2

#5
My mind is a mess now. :stars:

I still cannot figure out if I am the problem or they are or both. I feel I became just as bad, or worse, because I worried over kid and got angry and terrified. And got no help. They wrecked my mind. And I wonder if they became like that because I was so horrible (as they say).  Or I became like this because they were so horrible.

I also just don't know how to explain without sounding utterly crazy. I had psychosis. Because of what they did. I do not now. But if I will tell that dad secretly does a smear campaign with the family, who all cover for him, and spread nasty stories (i have their stories on record, but cannot proof they are lies)...or if I say they stole my diaries and passport when I was away...or if I say dad seems nice but secretly says nasty stuff when nobody listens... or my mum tried to manoeuvre me back to abusive men all the time, with weird excuses...I mean... who on earth are they going to believe? I will sound insane. I sound insane to myself. Even I can't believe they are that mean. Dad said it: "you will not even notice I play games, because I am so smart at it". 

Someone told me to run from the family and save myself. And leave my kid behind. Which I will never. Even if my mind becomes mush and I die of stress. I see kid mask and slide in stuff the family teaches him. I cannot offer him much. But running away? Nope.


Matilda2

#6
The only proof I have that will at least show it did not start with me....is that dad admitted he came from a family with narcissism.

The child therapist told me she had a strong discussion with my brother, because he spread stories that were not true. I told dad. Who said he would make clear she'd lose her licence for speaking with me. Right after that she disappeared from my social media. Her complete profile was gone. I still have her words written. But I mean...I know he always talks angrily with people who support me...but...would he really?

Armee

Mathilda I want to reassure you that the things you say make 100% sense to anyone who understands what it is like to be stuck in a relationship with a narcissist, especially a parent.

And your behaviors and reactions make sense to anyone who understands trauma, as well as what child sexual assault does to the mind.

Would you be any of the negative things you think about yourself if you weren't stuck trying to make a relationship with your dad work for the sake of your child? If your dad were all the sudden just gone....what of your behaviors stay and what disappears with him?

Armee

Guilt, shame, and low self-esteem are all common symptoms after CSA (and being raised by a narcissist).

They're treatable. But the trauma has to be in the past first.

My point being...there's not anything wrong with you other than that you continue to be traumatized. I'm sorry because there's not a solution right now unless CPS gets their act together and does what's right. But at least take some peace knowing deep down it isn't you. It was never you.  :grouphug:

Matilda2

Thank you.

The sad thing is...I can see the sweet and sensitive little boy dad was. That breaks my heart. I saw it in my ex. I see it in my dad. I saw it in my mum. I see in them the little children they were, and can become, if only they step out of the web of defences.

I guess my priority at this point though...is to free my own little inner child from her defences...and make sure kid doesnt hide himself more.

Matilda2

#10
I just find no logic.

The one moment he says he will isolate me with a smear campaign. Almost literally. The next moment he is truly devastated his kids fight. Both these feelings seem real.

The one moment I beg him to stop the behaviour he uses to drive me to suicide...and he coldly says no. The other moment he says he is so worried and prays I don't do it...the next moment he uses my suicidality to smear me. :stars:

I feel he is just very fragmented himself.

NarcKiddo

There is no logic to find. That's why these situations are such a terrible, knotty problem.

As an outsider looking in, my perspective is that you are trying to solve all of the problems at once. As soon as you address one aspect, all of the other aspects pile in on top of you. And then you can't do anything because literally nobody can solve every single problem they might have at the same time. Even if the problems are very interlinked, as yours are, there is simply no one approach that will solve it all. If there was, you would certainly have found it by now. You have been working so hard at this for so long.

I think you may benefit from trying first of all to identify the main issues.

First, there are three main people here, as I understand it. Your son, you, your father. So those three people could be where you concentrate your initial thoughts. Before you go any further, maybe give some thought to who you can actually influence here. You can influence you. If you feel strong and in control then you are your best self. When you are your best self you have more capacity to help others. It is not selfish to concentrate on yourself, and what will make you feel calm and strong. You can likely influence your son to some degree. He is his own person with his own thoughts and feelings but he is still a child and you are his mother. Children look to adults for guidance and I guess you want to make sure that you are the main person he looks to for guidance because you are the person who has his best interests at heart.

Next step would be to consider which other people need your help most AND which other people will be receptive to receiving your help. Seems to me that while your father and your son might both need your help, your son is the person who probably needs it more and who will benefit most from getting it. It is very human and kind of you to see the good in your father but maybe he should come third on your list? That is your decision to make, of course. And don't forget that you also need your help.

Once you have worked out your priority list it may become easier for you to construct your communications with CPS to best achieve a good result for the people in the priority order you have worked out.

As you have identified earlier on, communications with them need to be reasonably brief and to the point. Even if you have the nicest and most considerate caseworker in the world they are not going to have time to consider the entire life history leading up to this point and if you try to make too many points they will simply switch off and do what they think is suitable.

I think that if you can come up with a workable plan based on who needs the most benefit right now, you will feel calmer.

 :grouphug: 

Matilda2

I just feel stupid. He literally said, years ago, that he would play games. I gave him a shitload of ammunition. Because I freaked out.

Matilda2

#13
You are right. I need to care for me and kid first. And speak up. And set priorities.

I just do not know how to explain. Dad is extremely extremely extremely covert in his abuse. He can threaten me with one tiny smirk. He can isolate me from the family with a stream of stories that are very subtly (but crucially) twisted. He can just nudge kid to not bond with me more in tiny ways. He can make clear he will revenge if I speak up, with the subtlest little dog-whistle, that sounds innocent to outsiders. He will steal my passport. I discover it because the door of the cupboard is open, and it wasn't before. He will lie it was on the table, and he was afraid it was seen and stolen.

And do it while smiling and offering the kindest of help. I manage to mostly ignore this now. But I do not know what steps to take to defend my child.


Armee

Just rest assured knowing nearly all of us here grew up with the same and fully understand what you mean. It may not ever be something you can explain well to cps. But it makes full and total sense here. And you don't owe others a detailed explanation. "There are sides of him he hides well and he is not healthy for me to be around due to some aspects of that behavior he hides. My religion and values don't not allow me to say more. It would just mean so much to me if you would trust what I am saying to be true for me without trying to convince me my experience is incorrect."