Co morbidity

[Rainagain]

Hello all
Joined today and wanted to try to bring something to the table.
Co morbidity is having more than one issue, it is common if you have trauma based anxiety. But what if you don't have any diagnosis at all and can't get treatment? Where are you then?

I have more issues than cptsd, now I know that fact things make a little more sense to me.
I try to be accepting of how I am, I was unaware I was Ill for many years, then very worried about my mental health for a while and no proper diagnosis.

Now I have a slight grasp of what is going on for me and I try to relax into it. Knowledge may not be power but it is still useful to have.

Don't worry about fitting the DSM criteria exactly, it is evolving over time as medicine catches up with the various ways trauma effects people. It reminds me of the scene in the Life of Brian where the popular front of Judea and the judean popular front are falling out over nothing.....

What I'm saying is, if you find your way here then you are in the right place.

[AphoticAtramentous]

Welcome to the forum Rainagain. ^^
Never heard of the term co morbidity till now. Not sure how to answer your questions though.

I think it's kind of common that if you have one disorder, you're more likely to have another.
I had a narcoleptic friend with bipolar disorder, and a friend with major depression and autism.
And I believe if you have CPTSD specifically you're quite likely to have depression/anxiety as well. That's just from what I've seen/heard of though.

[Sceal]

Welcome to the forum Rainagain. ^^
Never heard of the term co morbidity till now. Not sure how to answer your questions though.

I think it's kind of common that if you have one disorder, you're more likely to have another.
I had a narcoleptic friend with bipolar disorder, and a friend with major depression and autism.
And I believe if you have CPTSD specifically you're quite likely to have depression/anxiety as well. That's just from what I've seen/heard of though.

I just thought I'd link you this quick overview of the different types of PTSD, comorbid PTSD is a diagnosis of it's own.
https://psychcentral.com/lib/types-of-ptsd/ It's just an overview thoug, but maybe it'd still be interessting for you to see 

[AphoticAtramentous]

I just thought I'd link you this quick overview of the different types of PTSD, comorbid PTSD is a diagnosis of it's own.
https://psychcentral.com/lib/types-of-ptsd/ It's just an overview thoug, but maybe it'd still be interessting for you to see 

Oh! Thanks for letting me know.
I just searched 'comorbidity' and read whatever Google gave me first, haha. Didn't realize there was an actual comorbid PTSD. Alrighty, ya'll can ignore my first post here then, lol. I don't know what the #%^&*# I'm talking about apparently. 

[Sceal]

Nah, I think you were on to something!
I mean, c-ptsd alone is horrible! And it's not hard to imagine that living with the symptoms and afteraffects alone can lead to depression, which again means it is comorbidity.  Maybe that's part of it's complexity too!

[Rainagain]

Thank you sceal,
That link is very interesting as I hadn't heard of co morbid PTSD.
A recent assessment highlighted I have cptsd and dysthymia with chronic pain and some other symptoms related to other anxiety disorders. Oh, and major depression episodes, mustn't forget them.
Maybe I don't have cptsd after all, maybe its co morbid PTSD with lots of friends!
Must learn more about it all I guess.
I actually quite enjoy finding something odd  I do or suffer from is connected to a recognised anxiety disorder as it takes away self blame for that particular thing. I can put it with the things caused by what has happened to me and not let it make me feel bad about myself.

[Rainagain]

Whoa!
I've just been looking at the out of the fog website, just realised that PTSD or cptsd isn't a personality disorder.
So.... As I am not affected by a relationship with someone with a personality disorder and don't have one myself then that site isn't for me.
As I did not get cptsd from a relationship with someone with a personality disorder (unless an organisation can behave like they have a PD, which they sort of did in their interactions with me) then this site, as an offshoot of out of the fog wasn't originally designed for people with my particular cptsd causation.
Is that about right?
If so it would explain why I don't understand many of the posts I guess, they are outside of my experience and understanding.

[Sceal]

I haven't been to the out of the fog site, so I can't comment on that one.

I haven't been that long on this site either, but I have found both topics/threads that I do and don't identify with. I've known alot of people with PD's, some bad and some great. Just like regular, mentally healthy people (I mean, there are both bad and good people in that "box" too).  There is various reasons why people devellop PTSD such as war, natural disasters, car accidents, abuse, SA, neglect, terrorism, blind voilence to name a few. I've never been told by a psychologist or psychiatrist that being around people with PD is the reason. And not everyone do devellop PTSD after a trauma, most in-fact do not.

As far as I've understood, this site was mainly built for c-ptsd. With all it's various forms. So I suppose it would be up to you if you feel you can use this forum to help you heal. Maybe there are others who have similar experiences like you, but haven't posted about it? Maybe new members will connect better with you? You don't have to understand everything in order to be a part of something.
I am sorry, I am rambling today. I might not end up making any sense whatsoever.

[Rainagain]

Hi sceal, thanks for posting.
Think I managed to freak myself out yesterday, it happens.

I'm no different from how I've been for years, but having someone stick a label on it changes how I see myself in some way, even though I'm the same.

I will settle down with the the new information, I just don't like changes much.

[Sceal]

I can totally relate to that.
I am not fond of changes either. I think its because its so unpredictable.

I struggle with new labels too. My psychologist just put on dissociation on me, and I dont know what to think of that.  Sometimes my entire life is my diagnosis and then I have to repeatedly remind me that I am more than my diagnosis. I am first and foremost me. I just have a handicap following me around.

[Rainagain]

If something changes or I get a new piece of information then I seem to have to try to reassess everything to see if the new thing has significance anywhere and everywhere, exhausting and takes up so much head space.

Have you seen the cats on utube seeing a cucumber? That's me.

[Sceal]

If something changes or I get a new piece of information then I seem to have to try to reassess everything to see if the new thing has significance anywhere and everywhere, exhausting and takes up so much head space.

Have you seen the cats on utube seeing a cucumber? That's me.

No I don't think I've seen that.

Can totally understand that it's exhausting. *big hug if you want and need one*

[Rainagain]

Just read that there is a 92% co morbidity rate between cptsd and PTSD.
Need to think about that for a while.

[Sceal]

If I understood that right, then I am not really surprised

[Metanoia]

In a workbook I have called, healing the trauma of domestic violence, they talk about how cptsd/ptsd go hand in hand with depression. If you can relieve your ptsd then the depression will start to subside as well. I have had non-abusive people close to me say I can be depressive in nature. So I think it's possible for there to be co-morbidity.

I mean people with diabetes usually have obesity or coronary artery disease. Pregnant women can develop gestational diabetes or hyperthyroidism.  Why can't it be the same for mental health as well? We are complex creatures and everything is intertwined in some way. Heck, I have a knot rubbed out of my neck and feel it all the way down to my fingertips.