Odd side effect from DBR?

Started by GoSlash27, March 23, 2026, 08:48:44 PM

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GoSlash27

All,
 I've noticed over this past week that I have been having deep philosophic musings in my sleep. They're not irrational like I would expect, they're very cogent. Human behavior, interactions, mistakes, forgiveness, grudges, etc.
 Is this normal? Anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,
-Slashy

Kizzie

Now that's quite interesting Slashy, are they things you muse about when you are awake?  I don't have philosophical dreams but i'm having a lot more boundary and standing my grounds dreams and they are very clear.  It's things I should have said way back when and didn't but it feels good, like I now know clearly when someone has overstepped and I am no longer afraid to step up on my own behalf.

Different types of dreams but maybe once we've cleared out a lot of the 'clag' we're able to be clear/cogent finally even in our dreams?   

GoSlash27

 Kizzie,
 Surprisingly, no. I don't think about philosophy when I'm awake, but when I wake up I'm already deep in thought on a subject, and I just continue it throughout the day. It starts while I'm still asleep.  :Idunno:
 This morning's subject was the subject of "self" vs "perceptions of others".  :Idunno:

 It's not distressing and I'm not waking up tired. It's just odd.

 I'll have to look into it.

 Best,
-Slashy

TheBigBlue

I don't know that I would call mine "philosophical," but I relate to the processing part. I seem to do a lot of processing in my sleep and often wake up already mid-thought, just continuing it into the day.

I once read that after waking it can take a bit for higher-level thinking (like the prefrontal cortex stuff) to fully come online — but I've never really felt that. You can wake me anytime and I'm immediately "on," already thinking things through or even ready to debate 😊 I sometimes wonder if that's because my system never really learned to feel fully safe — not even during sleep — so there's no real "ramp-up," just continuity.

And yes, the processing can be quite deep; sometimes more abstract like "who says I matter just because I exist - and why," and other times more specific, like trying to understand what triggered an emotional flashback or reaction the day before.

So not exactly the same maybe, but the "waking up already thinking" part definitely resonates.

GoSlash27

Big Blue,
 From my research it appears to be healthy and normal, and a positive sign. As you have demonstrated, post- REM thinking is something that many people do. As Kizzie alluded, it's probably something I would have done as a matter of course my whole life had I not been so screwed- up.
 My subconscious has involved my prefrontal cortex in the cleanup process. I'm beginning to reintegrate.
Best,
-Slashy

Kizzie

Quote from: GoSlash27 on March 26, 2026, 01:13:14 AMMy subconscious has involved my prefrontal cortex in the cleanup process. I'm beginning to reintegrate.

 :yeahthat:  Recovery (for me at least) has been about (re)integration and getting my whole brain moving rather than being stuck in a trauma loop.