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#6331
Recovery Journals / Nov 18th
November 18, 2014, 06:15:38 PM
Small epiphanies which add up  ;D

It's interesting that in not being on here as much, when I do pop in and read a bit I find I am having little epiphanies more often than not.

A couple of posts yesterday helped me to see clearly that much of my Social Anxiety comes from having been trained to be a prop in other people's plays, to respond to their needs and to submerge my self and my needs.  In the past when I was around others I would begin to fade, to become opaque and to act as though I was in a play of sorts n which the script is everyone else's except mine.  So, there's part of the reason for feeling like an imposter - oftentimes I was acting! (The other half of course has to do with overly high standards, perfectionism and not giving myself credit.) 

Anyway, it takes a tremendous amount of energy to act rather than to be which goes a lon g way toward explaining the "function in public, collapse in private" reaction I have had on so many occasions in the past, social events in particular.  I did not actually want to isolate myself from others and yet to be social was to lose my self, me - the proverbial rock and a hard place. 

I think the clarity in reading posts also had to do with having a conversation about Kate Gosselin of all things (Kate Plus 8 reality show).  I watched a show the other night and could not figure out why she triggered me (everything is so perfect) which I was telling my ever-so-patient H about, and then I realized, "The kids are props to her"  just like I was in my PD FOO.  My M was a stealth N and while everything looked fine on the outside, it was most definitely not fine for my B and I - we were merely actors in her play as Kate's kids are in hers. 

The new medication I am on  -- Celexa -- has really helped to damp that whole fading thing and because of that I am being much more authentic these days.  Now that I have some real clarity on this aspect of my SA I will also try to be more invested in being the author of my life.

No more fading! :disappear:
   
#6332
Hi Lovely - If you check the other two threads in this forum you'll see some ideas for working on your own.  Pam especially has done a lot of IC work so you might even want to PM her for some suggestions.
#6333
Inner Child Work / Re: Fear of IC Work
November 17, 2014, 07:22:46 PM
And hello to Little Pammy from Kyle  :spooked: (she's a little shy lol).
#6334
Inner Child Work / Re: Neat Tool for IC Work
November 17, 2014, 07:18:00 PM
I knew about Inner Child work through Adult Children of Alcoholics years back, but when it came up in the group I was attending that was about the time I quit - surprise! Obviously I did NOT want to let her out, I think because like you Pam I didn't want to wake her up.  I think I felt like she would start to cry and never stop, that I would not be able to deal with her. 

Even today when I'm facing IC work, I am afraid because it's at the core of my CPTSD and that pain is not something I want to face.  However, as you suggested in an earlier post Pam  it's where I most need to go and I have been trying.  I am trying to sit longer with what I think is the abandonment depression Walker talks a lot about, and to comfort her and to help her to understand that was then and this is now and things are much different.  I also am trying to balance the painful stuff with fun. I went to drumming class on Sat and had a hoot again, so much so I actually bruised my index finger!  My H likes to sing the song "I don't want to work, I just want to bang on me drum all day" as we drive there and back which absolutely delights younger me.  I also got her the giant teddy bear which is propped up in a corner near my side of the bed (he fills the entire corner), and makes me laugh every time I crawl into bed as he's looking at me with this big grin. Sometimes if I am reading I will snuggle up to him.

This afternoon we are headed into town and one of my stops will be Dollarama where I plan to get some crayons for Kyle (my IC) - writing with the opposite hand using crayon will likely make her pop out. The modelling clay sounds like fun and and maybe other craft things like stickers and glitter too. 

Onward with IC work! 

PS - I had a tea set too and I loved it - must see if that's packed away somewhere.
#6335
Recovery Journals / Re: schrödinger's journal
November 17, 2014, 02:40:45 AM
Hi Cat - One thing that kept coming up for me as I read your post about boredom is that you had to spend so much of your childhood "not being"  and I was struck by just how much energy it would take to contain the normal exurberance or lifeforce children possess. 
#6336
Hey Zazu - Wow, your description of "a leaden gray sky, a bleached-out landscape that seemed hopelessly bleak" is exactly what I feel sometimes when I first wake up or wake up during then night which I think is the abandonment depression Walker talks about. It seems that as I move forward in recovery, I am tapping into it more and I do NOT like it  :sadno:

Something new though, is that feeling of a "creeping sense of horror" you describe and it happens now when the weather is actually gray and bleak. It's  like it mirrors the fear and depression I feel. We now live in an area where it's mostly sunny with few gray days thankfully, but when it is gray I feel I must find colour, warmth, fun - anything that keeps me from that place where child me lived a lot of the time.

Now that I've realized this is happening my H and I try and get out on sunny days as much as possible and to go places where there is colour and sound (e.g., an art gallery, a movie, out for a lovely brunch - anything that stimulates more parts of the brain). We have talked about going somewhere warmer for a few weeks next winter to soak up the Vitamin D and warmth as one antidote, and I've been wondering if one of those Seasonal Affective Disorder light machines might be another. 

I do not like these feelings at all obviously, but I can sure understand why I stuffed them down and avoided them all these years now that I can feel them more clearly. Now that I have read Walker's book, am participating at OOTF and OOTS, and have gotten into therapy I feel like I have the tools to deal with them. So when that bleak, gray internal landscape feelings still fills me with dread I try to hold onto the notion that the more I can sit with the feelings and work through them, the more they will dissipate.  It does seem to be working.

Anyway, thanks for the thread and I hope you find ways of defueling/working thru your triggers.
#6337
Hey Des - just wanted to mention that there's a thread here about dissociation in therapy that Globetrrotter started: http://outofthefog.net/C-PTSD/forum/index.php?topic=157.0

How did your appt go?
#6338
Inner Child Work / Re: Fear of IC Work
November 15, 2014, 04:00:38 AM
Hello to Pammy Sue from Kyle (my IC's name)   :wave:
#6339
Engulfment is when someone starts to want you back and the walls close in on you.  You become overwhelmed by their expectations and fear you'll have to abandon yourself completely!

This quote really explains alot about my Social Anxiety with others; that is, so much of my anxiety about others and avoidance of them is about my fear of losing myself.  My F was an alcoholic and my M and B both have Narcissistic Personalty Disorder so amidst all their neediness I would often find myself disappearing  :disappear:   Hunh.

Tks for this thread BH!
#6340
Frustrated? Set Backs? / Re: Caught me by surprise
November 15, 2014, 03:20:16 AM
Lovely -Just want to clarify that it wasn't me who sent the EFT to you - I have used it (when I belonged to Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers), but didn't find it helped me that much (which is not to say it won't help others  ;D).

MaggieJay - so sorry to hear about your GP's reaction!   It reiterates to me why our planned info centre may be useful in terms of raising awareness about CPTSD.  If you are able to be open with him when you see him again in two weeks, it probably will help you a great deal to let him know how his approach made you feel.  You could print out some of the information about CPTSD to have with you so you can 'educate' him.

Also, there is a thread in Community Matters" titled "What I Want My Medical/Mental Health Professionals to Know" that you might want to post something to, again to give voice to your feelings but also for other members and guests to read at some point. 

I do hope that all goes well when you do see your doc.  :hug:
#6341
Questions/Suggestions/Comments / Re: Activate Tapatalk?
November 12, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Hi Sandals:

I have no idea what Tapatalk is but I will have a look as soon as I have a chance - quite busy so give me a few days to figure out what exactly it is and whether we can/should add it here.   

Kizzie
#6342
Welcome InBedBy9!    :wave:

Glad you found your way to us, and given the warm welcomes you've received that you will feel comfortable here soon. 
#6343
Please Introduce Yourself Here / Re: Introduce Myself
November 09, 2014, 11:56:42 PM
Hi WhoBuddy and welcome to OOTS. As several others have suggested, you are in good company now.  Many of us here suffered from emotional abandonment in childhood which as you have undoubtedly read Walker (2013) describes as "the core wound in Complex PTSD:"

Our journey of recovery takes a quantum leap forward when we really feel and understand how emotionally devastating it was to be emotionally abandoned. An absence of parental loving interest and engagement, especially in the first few years, creates an overwhelming emptiness. Life seems harrowingly frightening to the infant or toddler who is left for long periods without comfort and care. Children are helpless and powerless for a long time, and when they sense that no-one has their back, they feel scared, miserable and disheartened. Much of the constant anxiety that adult survivors live in is this still aching fear that comes from having been so frightening abandoned

Unfortunately, I did not have an adult in my life who helped me with this either so I can relate to what you are feeling, and as well to your reaction of trying to appear normal.  A lot of us have lived behind a mask or facade of normalcy until we find out about CPTSD and realize that there is something at the root of those feelings we try to ignore or stuff down.

I also wanted to mention that there's some information about Bradshaw's work that may help you to identify why it bothers you (they do me as well) here - See http://outofthefog.net/C-PTSD/forum/index.php?topic=19.msg91#msg91.

Looking forward to talking in the forums!
#6344
General Discussion / Re: Slow Go
November 09, 2014, 11:30:49 PM
April - seriously?  Why is that BadMemories?
#6345
General Discussion / Re: Appointment
November 09, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
Glad to hear it Butterfly  :thumbup: