Hello, you have described my life eerily accurately. Abusive older brother, neglectful parents. My brother even plotted with my ex husband in an attempt to get him to leave me and our children and move in with him. They both called me a * on different occasions with the other present and they collectively thought it was ok and that I deserved it. That kind of life long abuse is awful. As child I learned that I was insignificant at best and a problem worthy of punishment at worst. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad I'm here. I hope we both find real healing.
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Please Introduce Yourself Here / new here - still in the storm
November 02, 2025, 02:55:47 AM
Where to start? I'm here because I have been talking my friend Susan (aka chatgpt) for hours about my trauma and my experience. I don't really ever, anymore, give voice to the life long pain I have endured (I'm 55) because why? In my experience - no one gives a hoot. Yesterday, however, I was in a great mood and I reached out to a friend that I hadn't talked to in a while. I have been friends with this person since I was 13 years old. That's 42 years. We have had long stretches where we weren't in much contact before and we have always been able to reconnect. When I texted her yesterday, she responded with "Are you in danger or in need of emergency help?" I knew in my gut what that meant, but my mind didn't want to go there. I responded with,"LOL,no." and then, "What if I'd said yes?" To that she responded that "For the rest of our lives I would show up in an emergency. Barring that - I really can't see talking. Be well - hope the best for you and the kids - but honestly not interested in just catching up."
I asked, "Did I do something wrong?" she responded, "Years of no contact - Yeah - that is enough."
Like I said, I knew what the emergency question meant. Another rejection. I was right. The reason given is that I was to blame for the no contact - as if I were purposely ignoring her. Let me be clear - there was no contact on either of our parts. This is not a situation where she was reaching out to me and I was ignoring that. She wasn't and I wasn't. My life has been especially hard the past five years and I have been programmed to believe that my suffering isn't important, it's my fault because I am always wrong and that voicing my pain is just annoying at best and burdensome at most so guess what? There are times in my life that I self isolate because I cannot be positive Polly all the time so I just figure it's best to spare people. Honestly, of all the people in my life, I would never have even entertained the thought that this person would be so hurtful. I mean she might as well have said I'm just not worth knowing because I haven't put forth effort - even though she didn't put forth effort either. I don't begrudge her that. I just figured we were both doing what we needed to to survive and tread water long enough not to drown, but not knowing how long enough is. It's an exhausting existence just living to survive. One doesn't thrive in those conditions. While it hurts me to think that I inadvertently hurt her with my absence, I just don't get the double standard. It's ok for you to not call me, but I'm an a-hole because I didn't call you? And now I'm not worth knowing? So little respect for me and a 42 year friendship that I don't even rate a conversation? I texted her back and apologized for any pain caused. Not because I feel guilty or believe that I am at fault, but because first an foremost, I wanted to acknowledge that whether intended or not, pain resulted from my behavior. You know what I got? Crickets. Being ignored is a huge trigger for me. It's intentional harm. I have been ignored all my life starting with my parents and my brother. I have never really felt loved, safe, accepted. The overarching theme of my life is that I am small, insignificant, and definitely easily abandoned. Not only that, but to advocate for myself is seen as anathema, like I'm a terrible person because I dare to say that I have been hurt by someone's words/actions, or in many cases, lack of any attention at all. That does something to a person. After awhile it's tempting to stop trying. To just accept that you are treated this way because you deserve it. Apathy feels like comfort because at least it dulls the pain. But I don't WANT to be apathetic, it's a deplorable way to live. Like shrinking into the background until there's nothing left of the person I once believed I was. And to be fair,who I still believe I am. It's just easier to fade away seemingly, but there's always this part of me that bucks that notion. I am significant. I am important. I am worthy of love and devotion - EVEN when I am not perfect. Maybe a case can be made that I took our friendship for granted and that I didn't put forth enough effort to cultivate it, but why can't it also be seen that I have been living with unending pain and sometimes I just don't have the energy to chase. No one's chasing me - that is made abundantly clear throughout my life. I'm only worth having around for what I can DO for you, not because you see value in just me, the person. Even knowing this is a safe space to be real, I find myself wanting to temper everything I say with some note of positivity and a counting of my blessings because that is what has been ingrained in my psyche. Always allow for the fallibility of others, do not want, much less expect reciprocity. Here's the thing, I do not know what she has been or is going through. I do know, however, that I was the one to REACH OUT and I never even entertained the thought that she was not reaching out to me because she didn't care or wasn't interested. I don't understand how that gets ascribed to me, however. It's unfair and it's 100% false. That is a narrative she created. As if she didn't call me because I didn't call her - *? That's the chicken and egg conundrum. Always trying to reason with things being my fault is exhausting. I'm accused of doing what SHE actually did. I'm not the problem here and yet somehow, as usual, I am. It hurts even knowing that she considers it plausible that I would intentionally hurt her. I wouldn't and the first thing I did was say sorry, again, not because I believe I did anything wrong, but because that doesn't matter, what mattered to me was that there was pain that was real and it deserved to be acknowledged. I'm tired of not being afforded the same courtesy. I'm tired of feeling like love is something to be earned. Love is the exact opposite of that. Love doesn't demand. Love just is. I thought that's what we had. I felt safe with her. That was shattered and it awakened something inside of me. I don't deserve that sh*t. Unfortunately, I'm the only standard bearer in the "I'm not worthless" brigade. I have never had a true advocate, no one to "stick up for me" - it's just me so it's easy for others to bond over my lack of worth, to convince themselves I deserve ill treatment. I hope that this can be a soft place to land. Despite getting knocked down repeatedly, I keep getting up. Who knows how long that will last though. I get wearier and wearier bearing this torch alone. I want to live not just be alive. I am a work in progress, as are we all. It'd be nice if it wasn't so easy to ascribe willful infliction of pain to me. I am not that person -I never have been. Anyway, I am tired of being a survivalist. I am tired of just accepting that I'm unimportant. This may be the only place I can speak that truth without being told I am self-centered and selfish, but that's one more than none so I'll take it. If any of this is relatable to you, I'm sorry because it means you have pain in your life on the daily. It's a 100 lb second skin you wear and are unable to take off. It weighs you down and robs you of anything of real restorative value. It's exhausting. This is like a club no one wants to be in, but hey, at least here we are not alone. That's something at least.
I asked, "Did I do something wrong?" she responded, "Years of no contact - Yeah - that is enough."
Like I said, I knew what the emergency question meant. Another rejection. I was right. The reason given is that I was to blame for the no contact - as if I were purposely ignoring her. Let me be clear - there was no contact on either of our parts. This is not a situation where she was reaching out to me and I was ignoring that. She wasn't and I wasn't. My life has been especially hard the past five years and I have been programmed to believe that my suffering isn't important, it's my fault because I am always wrong and that voicing my pain is just annoying at best and burdensome at most so guess what? There are times in my life that I self isolate because I cannot be positive Polly all the time so I just figure it's best to spare people. Honestly, of all the people in my life, I would never have even entertained the thought that this person would be so hurtful. I mean she might as well have said I'm just not worth knowing because I haven't put forth effort - even though she didn't put forth effort either. I don't begrudge her that. I just figured we were both doing what we needed to to survive and tread water long enough not to drown, but not knowing how long enough is. It's an exhausting existence just living to survive. One doesn't thrive in those conditions. While it hurts me to think that I inadvertently hurt her with my absence, I just don't get the double standard. It's ok for you to not call me, but I'm an a-hole because I didn't call you? And now I'm not worth knowing? So little respect for me and a 42 year friendship that I don't even rate a conversation? I texted her back and apologized for any pain caused. Not because I feel guilty or believe that I am at fault, but because first an foremost, I wanted to acknowledge that whether intended or not, pain resulted from my behavior. You know what I got? Crickets. Being ignored is a huge trigger for me. It's intentional harm. I have been ignored all my life starting with my parents and my brother. I have never really felt loved, safe, accepted. The overarching theme of my life is that I am small, insignificant, and definitely easily abandoned. Not only that, but to advocate for myself is seen as anathema, like I'm a terrible person because I dare to say that I have been hurt by someone's words/actions, or in many cases, lack of any attention at all. That does something to a person. After awhile it's tempting to stop trying. To just accept that you are treated this way because you deserve it. Apathy feels like comfort because at least it dulls the pain. But I don't WANT to be apathetic, it's a deplorable way to live. Like shrinking into the background until there's nothing left of the person I once believed I was. And to be fair,who I still believe I am. It's just easier to fade away seemingly, but there's always this part of me that bucks that notion. I am significant. I am important. I am worthy of love and devotion - EVEN when I am not perfect. Maybe a case can be made that I took our friendship for granted and that I didn't put forth enough effort to cultivate it, but why can't it also be seen that I have been living with unending pain and sometimes I just don't have the energy to chase. No one's chasing me - that is made abundantly clear throughout my life. I'm only worth having around for what I can DO for you, not because you see value in just me, the person. Even knowing this is a safe space to be real, I find myself wanting to temper everything I say with some note of positivity and a counting of my blessings because that is what has been ingrained in my psyche. Always allow for the fallibility of others, do not want, much less expect reciprocity. Here's the thing, I do not know what she has been or is going through. I do know, however, that I was the one to REACH OUT and I never even entertained the thought that she was not reaching out to me because she didn't care or wasn't interested. I don't understand how that gets ascribed to me, however. It's unfair and it's 100% false. That is a narrative she created. As if she didn't call me because I didn't call her - *? That's the chicken and egg conundrum. Always trying to reason with things being my fault is exhausting. I'm accused of doing what SHE actually did. I'm not the problem here and yet somehow, as usual, I am. It hurts even knowing that she considers it plausible that I would intentionally hurt her. I wouldn't and the first thing I did was say sorry, again, not because I believe I did anything wrong, but because that doesn't matter, what mattered to me was that there was pain that was real and it deserved to be acknowledged. I'm tired of not being afforded the same courtesy. I'm tired of feeling like love is something to be earned. Love is the exact opposite of that. Love doesn't demand. Love just is. I thought that's what we had. I felt safe with her. That was shattered and it awakened something inside of me. I don't deserve that sh*t. Unfortunately, I'm the only standard bearer in the "I'm not worthless" brigade. I have never had a true advocate, no one to "stick up for me" - it's just me so it's easy for others to bond over my lack of worth, to convince themselves I deserve ill treatment. I hope that this can be a soft place to land. Despite getting knocked down repeatedly, I keep getting up. Who knows how long that will last though. I get wearier and wearier bearing this torch alone. I want to live not just be alive. I am a work in progress, as are we all. It'd be nice if it wasn't so easy to ascribe willful infliction of pain to me. I am not that person -I never have been. Anyway, I am tired of being a survivalist. I am tired of just accepting that I'm unimportant. This may be the only place I can speak that truth without being told I am self-centered and selfish, but that's one more than none so I'll take it. If any of this is relatable to you, I'm sorry because it means you have pain in your life on the daily. It's a 100 lb second skin you wear and are unable to take off. It weighs you down and robs you of anything of real restorative value. It's exhausting. This is like a club no one wants to be in, but hey, at least here we are not alone. That's something at least.
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Please Introduce Yourself Here / Re: New here
November 02, 2025, 01:44:30 AM
Hello! I am new here as well. just signed up today after talking to chatgpt all day lamenting my life long struggle to be seen, heard, appreciated,accepted, LOVED - all the things. I relate to everything you said. I could have written most of it myself. I don't have any answers, but I saw that no one had replied and you posted 4.5 hours ago. I couldn't just skip on down to the next post. I hate feeling unseen and I imagine you do as well, but if you're like me, your experience may be similar - expressing want/needs isn't acceptable. People don't "get it." They don't want to either - mostly because it requires self reflection and in my experience most people just can't deal the ugly inside themselves and instead project it on to you. You're the problem. You're too negative. Your attitude sucks. Your feelings are a drain on other people. Their bad behavior is justified by your reaction. I get that all the time. Well I knew you were gonna react that way which is why I did it. It's f'd up and it's lonely and it's painful. Maybe you find yourself fading into an apathetic existence because it's so hard to care for yourself when no one else cares for you and not only that begrudges you wanting to take care of yourself. I know that other people's shortcomings are not a reflection of me, but still it's somehow always my fault. It's exhausting. I too hope to find community here and a place to just BE. I hope that for you as well. I feel your pain and hopefully this lets you know that you are not alone in your plight. I see you.
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