Thanks NarcKiddo.
There's so much cross over with C-PTSD and neurodivergence, you can never be sure where one ends and another begins, but the treatments need a different approach even tho the symptoms can be near identical. Tough unravelling. Ithink it's a lot like a house fire, the fire always looks like a fire, but it may have been electrical, a box of matches or arson, only the sifting through of the ashes can tell you which, and why.
I'm pretty sure that in my case, it was ADHD fracture lines that the later trauma blew apart, causing C-PTSD. I'd been pretty different to most people around me, which for the most part, wasn't that negative. I was funny, creative and alive and that went down well in my circle. But I was also struggling terribly with organisation, memory, maths, and the sciences. At school I could mask it, but at home I was relentlessly bullied by my brother, every mistake blown up into 80 foot neon letters and broadcast back out into the world. You live this double life, hiding your self in case it brought down this psychological warfare on your head simply for being the person you had no choice in being. I got over it tho, and for 10 years with my ex partner I was safe, happy with someone who I trsuted and who seemed to understand. Then both families went for us. She was equally messed up by hers, and I think both families, especially her abusive mother and sisters, and my Narc brother just couldnt cope with the idea that their written off scapegoats were thriving. We spent so much energy keeping them at bay, I cannot tell you. And it worked, until both mothers became ill. Then we were trapped.
People I've spoken to about this who have been through anything simliar, get it. They know how destructive these things can be, but those who havn't can be breathtakingly blase and glib. Why couldn't you just... that's what I would have done. Yeah, right. Try it. Walk in our shoes and tell us how easy you are gonna find it. It destroyed us. It killed my poor partner. It nearly killed me. Everything we'd built between us unravelled. Our time, energy and peace were just ripped away dealing with the unescapable mess that a dying mother can bring with them. Rrapped in place, we were subjected to wave after wave of game playing, manipulation and abuse. It broke us.
When it started breaking me, I broke along those old fracture lines, ADHD suoercharged my decline, no question. My brain just froze solid, I couldnt think clearly, but I could overthink, and boy did I overthink. My head was like a mass of pistons, thumping away in every direction, trying to keep 8 steps ahead of the next move of people who could outflank me simply by smashing through decent humanity and the milk of human kindness as if they never existed. That's why narcicissim wins, at least at first, they don't play by the rules, they don't think they apply. I just couldnt stop being the Eloi to their Morlocks, I clung to manners, empathy and respect to keep me afloat in a sea of bile and it didn't work. When it did finally stop, I slunk away, put my head down and then the C-PTSD really started. All the conversations, all the 5D chess I'd been playing in my head, rehearsing my responses, pleas to reason and desperate boundary management, it all began replaying to me. 4 or 5 conversations at the same time, rotating and spinning, flashbacking me in to a mess. It took a year for that to stop. I think that's the ADHD component there really, the obsessive repetative rabbitholes, the racing ill focussed thoughts.
Those fracture lines shape so much of what happens later I think. I'd been groomed for my trauma from the nursery.
Bit of a mind dump there, but I get it now. I get the way I went nuts for dopamine while being starved of every happy hormone I should have had. It made me reckless, out of control, a danger to myself. I got of lightly. I lost control of money very badly, something that has taken a long time to settle. I fought like crazy to get out of debt, and did well, too well really, because now I can't get my foot off the accelerator without my partner physically dragging out of the car. I got a very bad scare. I thought I'd had it, not gonna lie.
But you do get through.
You have to find out everything you can take in about what is happening to you scientifically, tough as that can be. You need to know why.
You need also, to hear other stories that show you which tramline you are stuck in, and how some of that is not as unique as it often feels.
You need to accept that no one is coming to put things right. Leave closure to TV dramas, they rarely happen outside in the wild. Closure has to be worked for internally, by you, for you. Narcicistic abuse isnt a crime, the people who did you such harm will not be arrested, they will not be converted and they will not be brought to book. If you don't seek that, you won't die on that hill, waiting. The punishment they have, is to go on being who they are.
You need to balance experience and regret. Learn from what happened, but don't live by it. Learn as much as you need to avoid such people and places again, learn your rights and your freedoms, learn that you can and should walk away if anything like that ever comes to you again. But don't live in fear, bitterness and regret. It's hard, I know, but if you don't try for that, it can't happen. Let those emotions win and the people who hurt you so badly will have you doing all the work for them. Don't let them live in your head.
You need compassion. You need it for yourself. You did what you could, with what you had availible to you. Who is born knowing how to cope with the intolerable? Of course you made mistakes, dropped the ball, failed to defend yoursef or were weak. You are human, these are very human responses and flaws that people under unprecedented abuse will always fall into. If you live in a flustered spinning storm, how can you walk a line that straight? The victim is not a perfect victim, nor should they ever be expected to be. There will be drinking, drug use, recklessness and personal chaos. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE. Excessive pressure leads to unpredictable behaviour. Be nice to yourself and let it go. A counsellor once said to me the line 'Not flipping suprising' NFS. It's a fine mantra. There's nothing to appologise for, you did what you had to do to survive.
You need to find beauty. The world is still full of wonder, love and delight. In spite of the layers of muffling cloying worry you've had, it's still there in nature, in experience and in, believe it or not, people. Just the RIGHT people. Find the things that shine their light through smog and let it wash over you. Get out in the trees, feel the sun on your skin, the sounds of a natural world that is oblivious to ego, pride and jealousy.
Do what you... YOU... need to do, to get well again. You do not need anyone's permission to live. So live.
There's so much cross over with C-PTSD and neurodivergence, you can never be sure where one ends and another begins, but the treatments need a different approach even tho the symptoms can be near identical. Tough unravelling. Ithink it's a lot like a house fire, the fire always looks like a fire, but it may have been electrical, a box of matches or arson, only the sifting through of the ashes can tell you which, and why.
I'm pretty sure that in my case, it was ADHD fracture lines that the later trauma blew apart, causing C-PTSD. I'd been pretty different to most people around me, which for the most part, wasn't that negative. I was funny, creative and alive and that went down well in my circle. But I was also struggling terribly with organisation, memory, maths, and the sciences. At school I could mask it, but at home I was relentlessly bullied by my brother, every mistake blown up into 80 foot neon letters and broadcast back out into the world. You live this double life, hiding your self in case it brought down this psychological warfare on your head simply for being the person you had no choice in being. I got over it tho, and for 10 years with my ex partner I was safe, happy with someone who I trsuted and who seemed to understand. Then both families went for us. She was equally messed up by hers, and I think both families, especially her abusive mother and sisters, and my Narc brother just couldnt cope with the idea that their written off scapegoats were thriving. We spent so much energy keeping them at bay, I cannot tell you. And it worked, until both mothers became ill. Then we were trapped.
People I've spoken to about this who have been through anything simliar, get it. They know how destructive these things can be, but those who havn't can be breathtakingly blase and glib. Why couldn't you just... that's what I would have done. Yeah, right. Try it. Walk in our shoes and tell us how easy you are gonna find it. It destroyed us. It killed my poor partner. It nearly killed me. Everything we'd built between us unravelled. Our time, energy and peace were just ripped away dealing with the unescapable mess that a dying mother can bring with them. Rrapped in place, we were subjected to wave after wave of game playing, manipulation and abuse. It broke us.
When it started breaking me, I broke along those old fracture lines, ADHD suoercharged my decline, no question. My brain just froze solid, I couldnt think clearly, but I could overthink, and boy did I overthink. My head was like a mass of pistons, thumping away in every direction, trying to keep 8 steps ahead of the next move of people who could outflank me simply by smashing through decent humanity and the milk of human kindness as if they never existed. That's why narcicissim wins, at least at first, they don't play by the rules, they don't think they apply. I just couldnt stop being the Eloi to their Morlocks, I clung to manners, empathy and respect to keep me afloat in a sea of bile and it didn't work. When it did finally stop, I slunk away, put my head down and then the C-PTSD really started. All the conversations, all the 5D chess I'd been playing in my head, rehearsing my responses, pleas to reason and desperate boundary management, it all began replaying to me. 4 or 5 conversations at the same time, rotating and spinning, flashbacking me in to a mess. It took a year for that to stop. I think that's the ADHD component there really, the obsessive repetative rabbitholes, the racing ill focussed thoughts.
Those fracture lines shape so much of what happens later I think. I'd been groomed for my trauma from the nursery.
Bit of a mind dump there, but I get it now. I get the way I went nuts for dopamine while being starved of every happy hormone I should have had. It made me reckless, out of control, a danger to myself. I got of lightly. I lost control of money very badly, something that has taken a long time to settle. I fought like crazy to get out of debt, and did well, too well really, because now I can't get my foot off the accelerator without my partner physically dragging out of the car. I got a very bad scare. I thought I'd had it, not gonna lie.
But you do get through.
You have to find out everything you can take in about what is happening to you scientifically, tough as that can be. You need to know why.
You need also, to hear other stories that show you which tramline you are stuck in, and how some of that is not as unique as it often feels.
You need to accept that no one is coming to put things right. Leave closure to TV dramas, they rarely happen outside in the wild. Closure has to be worked for internally, by you, for you. Narcicistic abuse isnt a crime, the people who did you such harm will not be arrested, they will not be converted and they will not be brought to book. If you don't seek that, you won't die on that hill, waiting. The punishment they have, is to go on being who they are.
You need to balance experience and regret. Learn from what happened, but don't live by it. Learn as much as you need to avoid such people and places again, learn your rights and your freedoms, learn that you can and should walk away if anything like that ever comes to you again. But don't live in fear, bitterness and regret. It's hard, I know, but if you don't try for that, it can't happen. Let those emotions win and the people who hurt you so badly will have you doing all the work for them. Don't let them live in your head.
You need compassion. You need it for yourself. You did what you could, with what you had availible to you. Who is born knowing how to cope with the intolerable? Of course you made mistakes, dropped the ball, failed to defend yoursef or were weak. You are human, these are very human responses and flaws that people under unprecedented abuse will always fall into. If you live in a flustered spinning storm, how can you walk a line that straight? The victim is not a perfect victim, nor should they ever be expected to be. There will be drinking, drug use, recklessness and personal chaos. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE. Excessive pressure leads to unpredictable behaviour. Be nice to yourself and let it go. A counsellor once said to me the line 'Not flipping suprising' NFS. It's a fine mantra. There's nothing to appologise for, you did what you had to do to survive.
You need to find beauty. The world is still full of wonder, love and delight. In spite of the layers of muffling cloying worry you've had, it's still there in nature, in experience and in, believe it or not, people. Just the RIGHT people. Find the things that shine their light through smog and let it wash over you. Get out in the trees, feel the sun on your skin, the sounds of a natural world that is oblivious to ego, pride and jealousy.
Do what you... YOU... need to do, to get well again. You do not need anyone's permission to live. So live.