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#1
Personality Disorder (Perpetrator) / Fugue
August 08, 2015, 08:19:39 AM
I did a quick search and couldn't find a mention of fugue, so I thought it might be worth asking if others ever have this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state

I sometimes have episodes of fugue if I am particularly stressed, especially if it involves direct rejection. I have to be very careful about going out in case this happens, because my response ranges from mild to moderate, and I don't really want to get to severe. It is distressing while it is happening, and leaves me exhausted afterwards.

My normal response to stress is to head home. When in a fugue state I head in a different direction; away from home and everything familiar.

#2
General Discussion / Trying to find therapy
August 06, 2015, 10:44:34 AM
in 1997 my GP diagnosed me with depression, & suggested I find a counsellor. I asked my Vicar. He said he was a trained counsellor, and would help me.

Five months later; he had changed to using me as his counsellor, telling me about his own family's abuse issues. Then he decided to move away, and avoided having a closing session. When I kept asking for this final session he told his wife, the bishop, the curate and anyone else who would listen that I was in love with him and had an unnatural obsession with him. I went to see the bishop because the vicar claimed to be a trained counsellor and had not behaved professionally. The bishop told me that women often have problems letting go of vicars. I felt very dirty.

My GP found me two ladies to offer counselling. They offered what they called a systems approach and taped the sessions. The systems approach meant that whenever I said anything about my family they then told me to look at it from the pov of the other family members. This caused a very rapid decline in my mh, and I told them what was happening to me, but they insisted on carrying on. So I pretended to be better; I was cheery and positive for 4 or 5 weeks until they agreed the sessions could stop. In the final session I told them what they had done, and asked them to listen to the tapes for certain things they had said; they said they did not have them any more. Convenient.

Then I went private. I paid a psychologist at a very well known hospital, and I saw him several times over some months; he did not notice signs of abuse. (He asked what my dad was like; I said a bully. He asked what my mum was like: I said selfish. Then he said, what was your childhood like; I said, 'Normal.' So he thought my childhood was normal.) So he agreed it was depression, and he referred me to a woman psychologist who told me to write down negative thoughts during the week, so that she could help me turn them into positive statements at the sessions. I tried to monitor my thinking, but it is very positive and upbeat; there were no negative thoughts. She did not believe me when I said that, and had nothing else to offer. So I said, 'I have a negative thought for you; this is not doing me any good at all.' I didn't go back.

The psychologist gave me another number to call. I rang that number and left a message and the psychologist rang me back and was very angry with me; he said he had no time in his diary and it was not appropriate for me to try to call him to arrange to see him. I apologised, but wondered why he thought this was my fault. I emailed the psychologist, and said this had been immensely upsetting and I would not try again.

I saw an article about that private hospital some time later. It said that 85% of their patients were diagnosed with depression; I thought, yes, that makes sense. That is all that they look for.

Then my GP suggested a different counsellor, at a local health clinic. This person was the best counsellor I have ever had. He listened to me, and he affirmed that I was not insane, and that I had a lot to deal with in my life and was doing the best I could in very difficult circumstances. He said I was not mad, even though I felt I was. There were only 12 sessions allowed, and then that stopped. He offered to see my privately afterwards, and I agreed, but he did not have an office. He came to my house and that did not feel good, so I did not arrange another appointment. If he had had an office I would have seen him some more, but it didn't feel right.

What next? I read an article about CPTSD and everything seemed to suddenly make sense. I took it to my GP, and I was told to stop aiming for the top of the mountain and to settle for living in the foothills. I emailed the UK trauma group, and one person replied to say there was medical research into PTSD; if I took part I could get a diagnosis. So I emailed the MRC and volunteered. I went along to the sessions, was diagnosed as having PTSD and took part in 3 experimental sessions. They were like * on earth, but I managed, somehow. It was to check whether people with PTSD can control their emotional responses; in effect switch them off. The dr found that yes, I could do this. He wrote a letter to my GP confirming the diagnosis, and recommending a proper evaluation.

My GP sent me to another hospital for evaluation. Then I changed GP surgery.

Within minutes the Dr at the hospital told me I had CPTSD. This was in about 2000; by then I had been unwell for 3 years. The Dr referred me for 15 sessions of what he called 'gentle counselling.' It was neither. It was - well, I don't really know what it was. 15 sessions of an angry man staring at me in silence, with his arms crossed. At the end of that time he told me I lived in the wrong place for more help, and that I had to go back to my GP.

My GP referred me to the local hospital. The same place my husband had been an inpatient 3 times, and I knew how terrible they could be.

The first doctor I saw was truly lovely; really the best ever psychiatrist. He told me I was too traumatised by what happened with angry man to have any further treatment for a while, and he asked to see me every week for some months. Then one day he disappeared; I turned up one day and he had just gone; I was told, 'Didn't he say he was leaving?' They didn't know what to do with me, so I was sent for art therapy.

I met the woman offering the therapy in a very small room. In the corner of the room was a sandpit with plastic dinosaurs in it. I told her that my hobby is painting; if art could heal me it would have already done so. We talked, but there was no connection. She had no awareness at all of PTSD or CPTSD, and nothing to offer.

Next I was offered group therapy in the next town. I met the man who ran this, and after we talked he agreed with me that group therapy was wrong for me; I was far too unwell to cope with it. And I said I could not be in a group with alcoholics (my h was an alcoholic) and he agreed with that.

Then I was sent for counselling with a lady in the local disability center. She was not a trauma specialist; she was trained in complex needs. I didn't know what that meant. I saw her for about a year, but there was nothing specific to trauma at all. I don't really know what the sessions achieved. At the start she promised not to leave suddenly as others had, but to make sure I would be handed to someone else before going. Then after a year she said she was leaving. She did not arrange any handover; she wrote to my GP and suggested I be referred to a specialist group she named.

It took me 3 or 4 years to achieve getting to that specialist group; I knew nothing about it at all, only that she said it was the right place. It was out of area, so lots of breaks were put on funding, or referral, and it took forever. But I persisted and got there for an assessment.

I asked if they had trauma specialists. They said no; no trauma specialists. I asked who would prescribe for me, because my expectation was that therapy for trauma would be combined with support from antidepressants. They told me that everyone on their programme had to be totally alcohol and drug free. That rang a huge warning bell; I asked for their literature. It said that their clients were ex offenders, alcoholics and anti social people. I was none of these, and I certainly could not attend groups with such people. I could see me lasting less than 6 weeks with such company, and was very afraid. I asked if they could refer me to a trauma specialist instead and they said no; they had no such people on their team. At that point I found out that 'complex needs' is code for 'personality disordered.' I have never been diagnosed as having any personality disorder; better than that; I have been told that I do not have any such.

So after spending all those years trying to get to that place, I declined to take it up.

I think you can see why I am seen as problematic.

I tried again; I asked to be referred to a trauma specialist. By then my local hospital had had enough. The psychologists decided to disagree with the former diagnosis of CPTSD; they told me that in their view it was not correct. They could not tell me what the problem actually was, only that it wasn't that. They were not going to refer me anywhere. By then I had stopped taking anti depressants because I was concerned about taking them for years and years without therapy. I thought they were just to keep me quiet.

I complained to the trust and asked for a second opinion. It took another 4 years or so - maybe longer - to get that second opinion. I was referred to a London hospital for an assessment.

In the first session the Dr confirmed CPTSD and also told me I am dissociative, and have very distinct alters. She could see it immediately. It was a huge shock, but it also made sense; lots of things that I had never understood suddenly came together. She saw me many times, and wrote a very thorough report for my GP. She wanted to offer me treatment, but the hospital had funding cuts to make, and one of those cuts was her whole department. It was all closed. Gone. By now we are up to about 2012.

I went back to my GP, and asked him to refer me somewhere else; to a specialist trauma or dissociative centre. He said he had no idea where to refer me, and he told me to find somewhere that had the right provision for me, and to let him know. I emailed 2 places. One of them replied and said they had no places. The other did not reply. This was making me unwell; I couldn't do it. I went back to see a different GP; I said I couldn't do this. She just shrugged her shoulders.

2 years later I found a place that might do, and wrote to my GP to say, can you refer me here? I said, I am very unwell. He replied to say come and see me.

I did not go to see him. I am not well enough. I have not heard anything further.

I don't go to see drs any more. They make me unwell.
#3
Please Introduce Yourself Here / Hi
August 04, 2015, 01:43:34 PM
I have C-PTSD and also DID.

I try to pretend I am normal, and then sometimes realise how wrong that is. But I do my best to carry on.

:)